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Peoria Journal Star (IL) ^ | June 10, 2004 | DOUG FINKE

Posted on 06/10/2004 5:47:27 AM PDT by Know your rights

SPRINGFIELD [IL] - A sales tax on junk food and certain soft drinks may be back in play as Gov. Rod Blagojevich and legislative leaders try to reach a budget compromise.

A two-hour meeting in Blagojevich's office Wednesday produced progress, leaders said, including on the contentious issue of revenue increases needed to balance the budget.

Among the ideas under consideration is extending the state sales tax to so-called junk food and to beverages such as fruit drinks and bottled iced tea that are not currently taxed. The idea could bring in as much as $100 million for the state.

"It is in play," said Senate Republican Leader Frank Watson, R-Greenville. "We're not necessarily advocating it, but it is an issue we will discuss."

"It is certainly on the table," said House Republican Leader Tom Cross, R-Oswego. "No one has said yes. The governor said he has some concerns about it. I think it's one of those (options) with a question mark."

The junk food tax is one of a number of revenue options the four leaders are supposed to discuss with their caucus members during the next few days. Depending on the reaction of rank-and-file members, those revenues could be part of a budget compromise or could be rejected.

Wednesday's negotiating session was the first since Blagojevich blasted a legal opinion issued by Attorney General Lisa Madigan as politically motivated. Madigan said last week that a plan to mortgage the Thompson Center in Chicago amounted to issuing state debt and needed a super-majority vote in the General Assembly to proceed. The decision wiped out a $210 million source of income. Blagojevich said the attorney general was simply doing the bidding of her father, House Speaker Michael Madigan, D-Chicago.

If the speaker was upset about Blagojevich's comments, it didn't carry over to the meeting, Cross said.

"I didn't detect any tension today," Cross said. "There was no tension on that issue at all."

Madigan normally refuses to talk to reporters after these sessions, but he said Wednesday that "we made some progress today."

"I will continue to say what I've been saying all along: that the problem here is that the governor has been borrowing and spending money that the state just does not have to spend," Madigan said. "We should work to stop that."

Cross said the leaders eliminated from discussion a number of the business tax increases Blagojevich has sought, including a tax on computer software purchased by business and changing depreciation rules.

"I think a good number of those were ruled out," Cross said.

Despite reports of progress, there is still a long way to go until a budget agreement is reached. Negotiators still haven't gotten into spending details, including how much of an increase should go for education or Medicaid spending. There isn't even agreement on whether to start with the current budget and add money to programs or to start with Blagojevich's budget plan and make cuts. Blagojevich's budget called for nearly $900 million in spending increases.

However, Watson said there is agreement not to spend as much as Blagojevich initially requested.

"We don't have the income coming in to go to the governor's (spending) level," Watson said.

Lawmakers missed the May 31 deadline set by the state constitution to pass a new budget. Rank-and-file members were sent home while selected budget negotiators continued to work. Because legislators missed the deadline, Republican votes are now necessary to pass a new state budget.

Although state government has enough money in the current budget to keep operating until June 30, if a new one isn't approved by then, it will run out of money.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: foodpolice; junkfood; nannystate; pufflist; taxes
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1 posted on 06/10/2004 5:47:28 AM PDT by Know your rights
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To: Know your rights

The democrats are working on a system to tax you for the air you breathe.

A democrat beileves that it is their purpose in life to rob and steal from those that work by taxing them to death and giving some of the money [99% finds it way to the democrat's pocket]to individals who refuse to work in order to buy their votes.

Do the people who pay the taxes care?

Apparently not. They keep electing and re-electing them.


2 posted on 06/10/2004 5:58:29 AM PDT by sport (bttt)
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To: Know your rights
Among the ideas under consideration is extending the state sales tax to so-called junk food and to beverages such as fruit drinks and bottled iced tea that are not currently taxed. The idea could bring in as much as $100 million for the state.

Just more effing greed to pay for their effing hubris: "Hi, I'm a liberal Democrat. Doing good works is as important a thing as sharing. So I'm going to share with you by doing good works and forcing you, at the penalty of fines or jail, to pay for them."
3 posted on 06/10/2004 6:02:15 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Know your rights

"contentious issue of revenue increases needed to balance the budget."

Here's a novel idea why don't they cut their spending habits?

Tax on tea (Boston tea party ring a bell?) and computer software. Do they already have a sales' tax?

At first I thought this was going to be one of those we don't want you to eat bad food so we are adding a tax to it for your own benefit kind of stories.


4 posted on 06/10/2004 6:06:35 AM PDT by PersonalLiberties (...)
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To: Know your rights
And just who is going to decide what is "junk food" and what is a healthy snack? Pizza?...depends on what the ingredients are made of. Yogurt?...some of them have so much sweetener that it's less healthy than Reese's Peanut Butter cups (for the non-allergic, that is). The new Atkins foods?...some are so high in fat you'll have to roll people who eat too much of them around in wheelbarrels.

Governments are going to need a whole new division....for the food police, determining what is healthy and what should be taxed. To paraphrase Dan Quayle, when the government decides what is "junk food", everything is going to be taxed as junk food.

I have a better idea. Why doesn't the government (at all levels) just stop exploiting smokers, let people take whatever nutritional supplements they want, pay for their own prescriptions (just watch the prices go down), and get out of our faces and let us decide how our money is spent. Then they won't need all of this extra tax money.

Grrrrr....... I haven't had a good rant for awhile. <^..^>

5 posted on 06/10/2004 6:10:57 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: PersonalLiberties; *puff_list; Gabz; SheLion; Just another Joe; CSM
At first I thought this was going to be one of those we don't want you to eat bad food so we are adding a tax to it for your own benefit kind of stories.

Nope, sorry, it is just like cigarette taxes. They want the revenue for their out of control spending.

Many times it's been stated that sooner or later, they will come after something that you enjoy.

6 posted on 06/10/2004 6:17:09 AM PDT by MissTargets
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To: Know your rights
Despite reports of progress, there is still a long way to go until a budget agreement is reached. Negotiators still haven't gotten into spending details, including how much of an increase should go for education or Medicaid spending. There isn't even agreement on whether to start with the current budget and add money to programs or to start with Blagojevich's budget plan and make cuts. Blagojevich's budget called for nearly $900 million in spending increases.

Wow, maybe I can start budgeting like this!

"Hmmmm... I don't have enough money to cover my bills. I had better start spending more!"

Mark

7 posted on 06/10/2004 6:18:55 AM PDT by MarkL (The meek shall inherit the earth... But usually in plots 6' x 3' x 6' deep...)
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To: Know your rights

Connecticuts sales tax applies to everything except certian necessary foods. Candy, sodas, etc are not considered necessary foods and are taxed accordingly. Odd that this bill is called a junk food tax.


8 posted on 06/10/2004 6:20:11 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Know your rights
Blagojevich's budget called for nearly $900 million in spending increases.

A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you're talking real money. /sarcasm

9 posted on 06/10/2004 6:20:26 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Know your rights

For all the folks who want to see a national sales tax, I hope you have no complaints about this tax.


10 posted on 06/10/2004 6:21:12 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Just another Joe; All

I though Blago wanted to cut spending... To bad there is not a recall option in Illinois.


11 posted on 06/10/2004 6:21:33 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: grania
And just who is going to decide what is "junk food" and what is a healthy snack?

Lobbyists, of course. And their data will take the form of campaign contributions.

12 posted on 06/10/2004 6:22:19 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: VRWC_minion
If they would ax the income tax and combine that with fiscal responsibility, I wouldn't have a complaint about this tax.
As it is, it is another tax thrown on top of every other tax the people of Illinois pay and no sense of fiscal responsibility except, "Let's find a way to pay for a bigger budget."
13 posted on 06/10/2004 6:25:31 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Know your rights
"Among the ideas under consideration is extending the state sales tax to so-called junk food and to beverages such as fruit drinks and bottled iced tea that are not currently taxed. "

It was said many times..."block the government control of tobacco, or they will soon go after something YOU LIKE."

It's time for a new "Boston Tea Party".
14 posted on 06/10/2004 6:26:58 AM PDT by FrankR (You are enslaved only to the extent of the charity you receive...)
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To: Know your rights

"A two-hour meeting in Blagojevich's office Wednesday produced progress, leaders said, including on the contentious issue of revenue increases needed to balance the budget."

I'm laughing my arse off right now, I wonder what the gnatzie pro-tobacco tax increase "convenient conservatives" will say now that their ox is being gored. Goring will eventually hit everyone's consumption choices.


15 posted on 06/10/2004 6:32:41 AM PDT by CSM (Liberals may see Saddam's mass graves in Iraq as half-full, but I prefer to see them as half-empty.)
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To: Know your rights
Why is it that these people can always come up with schemes to take money from people but can't come up with schemes to cut their spending?

Maybe they should try spending as much time trying to lower taxes than trying to raise them.


16 posted on 06/10/2004 6:33:43 AM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: CSM; All

I can hear it now, Tax Candy for the Children!


17 posted on 06/10/2004 6:33:56 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: VRWC_minion
Expanding the sales tax while maintaining all other forms of tax is a tax increase and is very different from replacing the current income tax with a new system that will not be a tax increase.
18 posted on 06/10/2004 6:37:10 AM PDT by BMiles2112
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To: Know your rights; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Madame Dufarge; Gabz; MeeknMing; steve50; ...
OH NO! Not CANDY!!!!!!!!!!!

~snicker

19 posted on 06/10/2004 6:50:21 AM PDT by SheLion (Don Imus is voting for FnKerry!)
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It just so happens that Snickers is my favorite candy bar. Yum!

Those stupid government types just don't get it. Stop spending you idiots.

20 posted on 06/10/2004 6:58:23 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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